this is what the fascists want. any excuse whatsoever to declare martial law, impose curfews, ‘papers, please’ checkpoints, and ‘papers, please’ thugs going door to door, looking for anyone they don’t like so they can send them to the concentration camp.
thoughtcrime doesn’t entail death, thoughtcrime is death
yeah, that’s a weak reason against violent protests. stronger ones are:
the violence is often misdirected at people not able to bring change, eg. small businesses or cars.
the violence exhausts protesters. many of them being crippled or killed by police, until the protests are suppressed by too few motivated protesters being left.
btw cops love violent protests. they get to kill maim and torture more people than usual. it’s what many of them signed up for and look forward to with excitement. sometimes they have off duty cops in plain clothes infiltrating protesters to start the carnage. all it takes is throwing one stone near a collegue with shield and helmet to give him an excuse to go on a rampage against innocent protesters, while the infiltrator sneaks off
There is an agenda in convincing people that non violence works. Take a real look at how unions and civil rights actually happened. The non violent get credit after the fact to control the narrative.
I really love this meme. The self-defeating attitude that’s been perpetuated by team Dem of "We’ve tried nothing that could potentially be useful and are all out of ideas!” has been swallowed wholesale, by us. Will getting ourselves out of this trap be painful, disfiguring for some, deadly for others? Sure. The other option is self-suffocating, slowly. Drowning by self-waterboarding.
Funny how Republicans online were the ones crying about that, but now they’re salivating at the idea of deporting Mamdani for the crime of being a socialist. Can’t have those political opinions, that’s wrongthink!
Yeah that’s the problem with American exceptionalists getting to redefine language: it doesn’t work outside our walled garden, regardless whether the fruit is nourishment or poisonous.
I have cause to believe USA makes up their own meanings of words that has nothing to do with the rest of the world meaning. You can interpret that how you will.
Last I heard, he was calling himself soc Dem or Dem soc, both of which uphold the capitalist class. He’s proposing good work to make a few inroads but not proposing his potential constituency own the means of production which is the definition of socialism.
You can show up to a protest armed to the fucking teeth without firing off a single round. That’s how those anti lockdown fucks got what they wanted in 2020 (and one of many reasons why COVID exploded).
this is what the fascists want. any excuse whatsoever to declare martial law, impose curfews, ‘papers, please’ checkpoints, and ‘papers, please’ thugs going door to door, looking for anyone they don’t like so they can send them to the concentration camp.
thoughtcrime doesn’t entail death, thoughtcrime is death
They said it before trump was sworn in. It will be a bloodless coup of the left allows it. The options are fascism or fight.
I keep hearing this so often “they will take any opportunity to declare martial law” this so often its starting to sound like autogenocide
yeah, that’s a weak reason against violent protests. stronger ones are:
btw cops love violent protests. they get to kill maim and torture more people than usual. it’s what many of them signed up for and look forward to with excitement. sometimes they have off duty cops in plain clothes infiltrating protesters to start the carnage. all it takes is throwing one stone near a collegue with shield and helmet to give him an excuse to go on a rampage against innocent protesters, while the infiltrator sneaks off
Cops like it when it’s them being violent. They don’t do much when the opposition is armed and not concentrated in one small easily controlled area.
Non-violent ones are more effective, as per some study I saw a month or so back.
There is an agenda in convincing people that non violence works. Take a real look at how unions and civil rights actually happened. The non violent get credit after the fact to control the narrative.
Hey where did they get that picture of me!?
Better check your phone bro, I think they might be spying.
i thought @Asafum@feddit.nl knew, Asafum was waving at the wall just yesterday so i took a pic
I really love this meme. The self-defeating attitude that’s been perpetuated by team Dem of "We’ve tried nothing that could potentially be useful and are all out of ideas!” has been swallowed wholesale, by us. Will getting ourselves out of this trap be painful, disfiguring for some, deadly for others? Sure. The other option is self-suffocating, slowly. Drowning by self-waterboarding.
We’re already at the thoughtcrime stage…
Funny how Republicans online were the ones crying about that, but now they’re salivating at the idea of deporting Mamdani for the crime of being a socialist. Can’t have those political opinions, that’s wrongthink!
He’s not a socialist.
In fascist USA anyone not actively licking the boot of a billionaire is a socialist!
Yeah that’s the problem with American exceptionalists getting to redefine language: it doesn’t work outside our walled garden, regardless whether the fruit is nourishment or poisonous.
He calls himself one, do you have cause to doubt it?
I have cause to believe USA makes up their own meanings of words that has nothing to do with the rest of the world meaning. You can interpret that how you will.
I’m talking about Mamdani specifically though. Or are you just assuming that based on your feelings about the US in general?
And? I live here. I like Mamdani. That doesn’t change the veracity of what I said. Perhaps your own feelings preclude that.
I guess that’s a yes. I was genuinely curious to hear the case that he’s not a socialist but it doesn’t seem you have much basis for this opinion.
Here, since you can’t be bothered: https://www.britannica.com/question/What-does-socialism-mean
Western source.
Last I heard, he was calling himself soc Dem or Dem soc, both of which uphold the capitalist class. He’s proposing good work to make a few inroads but not proposing his potential constituency own the means of production which is the definition of socialism.
don’t act like they’re not going to do that anyway. if no one rises up and does real damage, they’ll stage something and enact martial law
That’s not a reason to avoid resistance. They created the situation. The violence is on them. Hopefully, literally.
You can show up to a protest armed to the fucking teeth without firing off a single round. That’s how those anti lockdown fucks got what they wanted in 2020 (and one of many reasons why COVID exploded).