• Ulrich
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        Or it’s just a perfectly normal thing that billions of people do every day?

        • MynameisAllen
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          Except that signal is blocked by many companies Mobile Device Management. The one that don’t can typically see who has the app installed. This provides a new clever way to maybe whistleblow

              • @Broken@lemmy.ml
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                Not “you” necessarily, “one”.

                I bring it up because you mentioned company MDM blocking signal. The fact that company MDM is active indicates its a company device (if it’s not that’s an entirely different conversation).

                So why would one expect privacy on a device they don’t own?

                • MynameisAllen
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                  Well more I’m pointing to the idea that you may be trying to whistleblow on said company and this may provide a more succinct way to do so

                  • @Broken@lemmy.ml
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                    26 days ago

                    I get that, but it’s more logical to me that of I’m going to whistleblow on a company to not use one of their devices to do it. That way it doesn’t matter what apps are or are not secure, you’re not using their device that can potentially track you.

          • Ulrich
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            Use a different device? Use Molly? Use any number of other apps? What’s to stop the MDM from blocking The Guardian app?

      • Phoenixz
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        Then you’re a terrorist if you use the internet, period

        Nearly all internet traffic if encrypted, and for plain browser traffic it’s probably in the 95+%

        You access your bank? Terrorist! Email? Terrorist! Lemmy? Terrorist!

        • @Diurnambule@jlai.lu
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          110 days ago

          I dunno, I am not the French state. I can only see that they think the usage of signal is making you a terrorist.

      • Ulrich
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        010 days ago

        Then you’re also a terrorist if you use The Guardian 🤷‍♂️

        • @Diurnambule@jlai.lu
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          I dont’ know, do you have sources about this ? Or are you imagining thing and deciding it is true ?

          • Ulrich
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            Sources for what, exactly? What is “fantasming”? The title of the article you posted is “Criminalization of encryption”. The Guardian is using encryption to send messages, so why would they be exempt? In fact, why would any internet use at all not be criminalized? It’s all encrypted.

            • @Diurnambule@jlai.lu
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              So you read the title and you know everything. There is a liste of what they are accusing and their is no mention of internet

              The elements of the investigation that have been communicated to us are staggering. Here are just some of the practices that are being misused as evidence of terrorist behavior6:

              – the use of applications such as Signal, WhatsApp, Wire, Silence or ProtonMail to encrypt communications ;

              – using Internet privacy tools such as VPN, Tor or Tails7 ;

              – protecting ourselves against the exploitation of our personal data by GAFAM via services such as /e/OS, LineageOS, F-Droid ;

              – encrypting digital media;

              – organizing and participating in digital hygiene training sessions;

              – simple possession of technical documentation.

              But continue to invent reality. What are fact if not debatable point of view ? That the end for me. Have a great day.

              • Ulrich
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                09 days ago

                I don’t know everything. Just because it’s not explicitly listed today doesn’t mean it won’t be tomorrow. This was just created yesterday. And it does the same thing that all of those listed apps do: facilitates private communication.

                • @Diurnambule@jlai.lu
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                  Yeah but contrary to these listed, the judge know the guardian is a newspaper, they shouldn’t be able to make him/her afraid in the same way they did.

                  • Ulrich
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                    Yeah but contrary to these listed, the judge know the guardian is a newspaper

                    The logic does not check out. Signal isn’t going to integrate a news section and then suddenly be exempt from this regulation.